Merryl Ford – Manager of the Emerging Innovations Group of the Meraka Institute of the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR).
Kentaro Toyama – Assistant Managing Director of Microsoft Research India (MSR India)
Oleg Petrov – Coordinator of e-Development Thematic Group of World Bank
Jan Blom – Director for Nokia Research Center – India.
Stephane Boyera – W3C
Aspects that have emerged:
- For many people the web browser on their mobile device is the door to the internet
- 3 core points: Issues of communications infrastructure, deployment, cost of mobile devices
- There have to be well-designed technologies to serve the user
- e-Health, e-Education, e-Governance
Focus on use in mobile phones in schools
2006: ways to integrate mp in teaching
- what can you do with your cell phone? voice call, sms, run application, access the web, mms
- concept of an audio wikipedia – information on how to join the school
- platform audio-wikipedia
- sms with a keyword to a number, system called back and read the article to that keyword
- worked extremely well
- kids discovered how to use the device immediately
- educational use – student podcast
- not only access – contribution
- students contributed to audio wiki
even poor children have access to powerful phones
applications are important, because connectivity is not necessary for them
project: creating surveys on the PC and frame it for mps
successful project: based on mixit – South African instant messaging service
now 10 mio. users
set up on top: service for mathematical questions, helping learners
a lot of stuff developed in the educational sector can be transferred to other levels
also: development of open source tools
Will take the position of skeptic for this panel
There is an immense hype around mobile phones
It’s important to put development first and not technology
- This is restricting yourself
- Many problems can be solved in other ways
- There might be no technology solution
- Unless you are constrained to the technology you better leave it undetermined
- No matter how much technology is provided, this will not foster development if no capacity building is offered
There are more ICTs than mps or PS
- Community radio
- Low level devices, combinations with paper
Mobile phone is the newest vision of the ICT toolbox so it’s naturally that there’s excitement
There’s a lot of reasons to be enthusiastic
Mobile is the most powerful ICT we have – especially for the poor
- We don’t have a better tool so far
- All other technologies don’t reach the bottom of the pyramid
Of course we should keep perspective
Development sector is often slow – so enthusiasm is something to embrace
Knowledge sharing is important – workshops on mps
- Good to avoid mistakes
- Best practices
Mobiles can the poorest people access to finance
Mobile for better governance
- complaining about corruption on mobile phones
Also agriculture & health field
The World Bank is joining the bandwagon on this – so there should be sharing of knowledge & experience
We cannot ignore the potential
We need to find a new expression – e-development, effective development – to show we focus on development, not on ICTs
Work with vendors, operators & governments to frame the surrounding
Let’s have a partnership on mobile for development – moving to the next level
Bangalore – taxi driver
- never used a PC before, didn’t know email
- but he had a mobile phone
Nokia does a lot of work on development
- recently launched a project to help health NGOs to collect data on the field and get response with GPS data
- services for agricultural sector – sms as backbone, launch in India soon
Research at Nokia
- multidisciplinary team
- role of technology in terms of empowering
- what can be done in the field of mobile?
- sister lab in Kenya
Example of research:
- combination of mobility and location specific information – LBS
- in the west: info about restaurants …
- in an LDC: more fundamental needs & motivations
- governments are not very tranparent
- disease based info takes very long – 1-2 month lags until info reaches local hospital
- how to decrease this lag?
- map of Soho, London
- Cholera transmitted through contaminated water – visualizing on a map
- correlation of death cases & contaminated pump
- 150 years ago
Now every citizen can collect this kind of information
Visualizing local information
Project: comfort zone
- Upload comfortable/unconfortable information about a place
- trial in Bangalore
- health radar
- collecting disease information and centralize it
- feeding back to health-NGOs and hospitals
Approach: looking at what we see in the field
Technology is just one more tool
If you bring them new opportunities perhaps they use them or not – could change their impact
It’s important to provide local existing organizations with as many tools as possible
Mps are available & cheap & therefore have a lot of potential
Mps offer drastic opportunities to do things differently
Technology has to be integrated in design , otherwise the impact is lost
We can’t take technology for granted
It’s important to be informed about technology
What’s already in the hand in the people, what are they already using?
Not everything needs to be solved with mps, but many things are already and people use it
Methodological challenge: how to get immersed in the community?
Many have difficulties to understand local people – which methods should be used?
Hype in mps similar to telecenter hype
Many examples of projects constrained to mobile phones because it’s so hyped now
“We want to do something with mobile phones” – but there is no way to do it sometimes
Reach of mobile phone
- Agree with that, nothing else is even close
- but reach is not development
- it’s not enough
- it’s a weak reason
- radios have even greater reach, TVs
Q & A:
The reason why it’s ICT4D was to make a difference ICT as a sector and the efforts to develop the sector. Driver: we need to do more and to do better.
One big mistake that is always present: we start talking a lot about technology, we forget talking about development – what is it about? what do we want to achive? there is no single answer;
Our duty as ICT4D “agents” is to be aware what’s going on in the development zone – awareness – so we can turn it in information we can share to help them to come up with the most approptiate tool.
The right message here is: we have to be aware about what is available – but we have to keep in mind that our duty is to provice our partners with a choice.
6 years ago we didn’t have Microsoft and Nokia addressing development issues. Let’s work together in a transparent and proper way.
There is a demand at the end user level – how can we get those to ask us to hep them? What about the governments? How can we provide our help?
People are at least asking for ICTs – even if they ask for the wrong tools.
What is the right model? Ethnographoc methods? Let the people themselves come up with the solutions – grass root level.
Users point of view: it seems like the picture gets more complicated
MPs get function rich and more expensive, PCs get better and cheaper – how come? Our tasks as ICT4D specialists is to inform responsible persons (governments) what the best choice is.
Make up of best teams is multidiscipinary – does it make sense to create an inter-institutional approach?
Dark side of mobile hype
Mobile operators are one of the most exploiting comapnies in the world – they are evil
Poor people pay much more for their calls than rich people
The industry is smart & opportunist – we have to deal with it
It’s no liberalized sector, poor quality of services, monoploists
In terms of “development first”
Where does the money go to? Where does the information go, can you handle it?
Upscaling is useless unless the backend to manage the inormation is not in place
Implementing mobiles can be implementes without the government – that’s what’s exciting
But development always wants to go large scale – although small scale would be more successful
Confusion of the idea of “needs” of communication
That development is in the hand of mulitnationals – who try to boost their profits
Mobile telephony is also smoke and mirrors
- In grassroots communities in Latin America above 3000 meters don’t work any more
Increased competition decreased prices
I don’t see why in schools there have to be so many mobile phones
- There are still problems with mobile phones – messages don’t arrive
- Mobile technology myth
If we upscale, a lot is missed
How can we collaborate?
We don’t know enough to be really helpful – at least the World Bank
Knowledge management at this stage is very important
- Forming a network around the knowledge issues
- That’s the most urgent thing right now
Do you think stadardizing batteries and chargers might help?
It works – people can charge everything with everything
Electricity problem is solved in innovative ways
It’s not a bottleneck
Development is complex and now ICTs arrive – basic needs are still unmet
ICTs influence young people and change their way of life
They could be used to preserve tradition, but they are not
First we have to think about development and then about technology
A mobile is opening up the world to children
How can it be controlled?
It’s necessary to develop value systems in using ICTs